Comments on Cactus Kate: Hi, My Name is Kate and I am a Meatsexual

Its making me hungry.

2007-08-07T10:00:00.000+12:00

Its making me hungry.

If you'll go for meat and/or veg does that make yo...

2007-08-04T21:48:00.000+12:00

If you'll go for meat and/or veg does that make you an omniverasexual?

A Catholic Maori homosexual conservative.He makes ...

2007-08-04T10:49:00.000+12:00

A Catholic Maori homosexual conservative.

He makes liberals heads explode just by standing near them.

Yes I know he is a homosexual. That's irrelevant t...

2007-08-04T05:26:00.000+12:00

Yes I know he is a homosexual. That's irrelevant to the debate, don't you think?

"Like I said, you have no fucking idea about what goes on. If you actually talked to a beef or sheep farmer in NZ, you will find that there are no 'growth hormones' or 'steroids' give to grass-fed NZ beef and lamb."

I was unaware that this is a New Zealanders-only blog. There was no sign at the door.

ChrisYou really are new to blogging aren't you?It ...

2007-08-04T01:08:00.000+12:00

Chris

You really are new to blogging aren't you?

It will shock you that Craig is homosexual. Oh my God. Shocking. And he even admits it.

Gay men are allowed to call anyone they want a bitch.

I told you Kate that I am not angry. Just repeatin...

2007-08-03T19:54:00.000+12:00

I told you Kate that I am not angry. Just repeating it doesn't make it so. And I didn't accuse your family of animal abuse, but anyone who eats meat is complicit in animal cruelty. Take a look at the inside of a factory farm or slaughterhouse some day.

And Craig, re your 'Don't get bitchy with Kate' comment, in my world men don't refer to other men's actions as 'bitchy', unless, well, you know.

I'm a great fan of vegetarian food.It goes really ...

2007-08-03T17:57:00.000+12:00

I'm a great fan of vegetarian food.

It goes really well with steak!

Has anyone else noticed that the lefties seem to b...

2007-08-03T12:56:00.000+12:00

Has anyone else noticed that the lefties seem to be paticipating in a "who's the bigest whiny ass bitch" comptetion in other peoples comments these days?

I say lets be inclusive and declare them all the winner.

"3. Vegetarian for spiritual/karmic/be nice to the...

2007-08-03T12:25:00.000+12:00

"3. Vegetarian for spiritual/karmic/be nice to the universe type reasons – they are all arseholes."

umm, sorry, don't fit into any of those categories. Stupid biggot."

Category three. Slam dunk bitch.

The decision for meatsexuals and vege rooters not ...

2007-08-03T10:40:00.000+12:00

The decision for meatsexuals and vege rooters not to have sex with eachother iscompletely MUTUAL.

Its only the carrot abusers who think it makes them morally superior.

Chris:You know, people don't jump on you because y...

2007-08-03T10:14:00.000+12:00

Chris:

You know, people don't jump on you because you have an opposing point of view.

They do it because you're a sanctimonious prat - not quite as bad as evangelical ex-smokers, but getting there.

And I don't say this out of anger, but amused contempt.

That is all.

(And a friendly warning, Chris. Don't get bitchy with Kate: 1) She really doesn't give a shit what you think of her, and, 2) She's just better at it.)

"Wow, everyone jump on the guy with the opposing v...

2007-08-03T08:50:00.000+12:00

"Wow, everyone jump on the guy with the opposing veiw point"

Try to set yourself on a higher moral plane than the rest of us and get a bit of a reaction.Who would have thunk it??

"Meat probably does make a person angry. It might be all that growth hormone and steroids."

Like I said, you have no fucking idea about what goes on. If you actually talked to a beef or sheep farmer in NZ, you will find that there are no 'growth hormones' or 'steroids' give to grass-fed NZ beef and lamb.

Not suprising that the humourless little socialist prig 'rogernome' is a vegetarian either.

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/vegetarian.html

Oh..thanks Cactus, I forgot to include all the rai...

2007-08-03T08:44:00.000+12:00

Oh..thanks Cactus, I forgot to include all the rain forests in South America being destroyed to put in Soy bean crops....oooh what do you make from Soya beans, tofu and other protein/meat substitutes....so it's ok to destroy the ecosystem in the name of vegetarianism then....

Nothing a big piece of steak won't fix Cactus.Chri...

2007-08-03T03:36:00.000+12:00

Nothing a big piece of steak won't fix Cactus.

Chris has got himself into a real lather over this lighthearted post, god I hope he keeps away from the really meaty posts :)

I blame any anger on my part on the Promax protein...

2007-08-03T03:13:00.000+12:00

I blame any anger on my part on the Promax protein bars I had for dinner after a session of Body Pump.

What's your excuse?

You accused my family of animal abuse.

And you don't wear leather.

You are just creepy.

You Cactus have displayed far more anger on this b...

2007-08-03T03:06:00.000+12:00

You Cactus have displayed far more anger on this blog than I ever will. I was quite calm during the entire time I typed out my comment. If insulting people is a sign of anger then the people who commented after my initial comment me are the angry ones. Meat probably does make a person angry. It might be all that growth hormone and steroids.

Roger nome,We are never going to have sex.Get over...

2007-08-02T22:20:00.000+12:00

Roger nome,

We are never going to have sex.

Get over it.

Chris,

All that anger? Go eat some meat.

I am glad to say I have turned a few Vegos into ca...

2007-08-02T22:03:00.000+12:00

I am glad to say I have turned a few Vegos into carnivoures.

Sure a lot of alcohol is involved, but they always thank me for it.

Wow, everyone jump on the guy with the opposing ve...

2007-08-02T20:10:00.000+12:00

Wow, everyone jump on the guy with the opposing veiw point.

Where to begin?

It's fitting that some of you had to pick two or three people that did horrible things out of a huge list to prove your point. Says a lot.

"Every generation of farmers in my family have been very kind to the animals they have raised."

That may be your (probably not accurate) personaly experience. It may surprise you that the ones in your family aren't the only farmers in the world.

"Bet the little skinny kids in Ethiopia would wet themselves to eat a large piece of MEAT."

Perhaps they would, but they would do that over any piece of food. The fact that they would do it over a piece of meat does not say anything about the meat itself, only that they have been deprived of food.

"Here's a questions for your vegans, vegetarians, vegansexuals etc - do you allow yourself to swallow a man's sperm after the culmination of fellatio?"

I'm a male heterosexual, so unlike Cate, I have never wrapped my lips around a man's member.

"Awwww who let this homo in awwhhhh!?"

An intelligent comment, as always. But please see above. I'm straight.

"Apart from Herr Hitler, of course!"

That's one person out of many.

"I do wonder what these people are wearing on their feet tho? Sweatshop canvas and rubber shoes? Funny how it's not ok to kill animals, burt alright to support brutal sweatshop labour."

That's an assumption. I take it you don't buy sweatshop-produced goods?

"So good to know that you guys never spray or swat flies or mosquitos, never take worm tablets and never remove pesty caterpillars from their food source in your organic gardens. They might die due to your selfish actions."

Not all of us are the same. Just as not all meat eaters are the same. I don't swat flies. I don't need to as I live in a clean house. Perhaps you should throw out the rubbish in yours? Removing catepillars from their food in my garden is not the same as raising animals in factory farm conditions and then slitting their throats. If you think they are similar in any way, you should seek professional help.

"Quite frankly these species are being abused and need advocates to speak on their behalf. Surely here is a worthy career begging for your services...?"

Perhaps they do, but I can't do everything. What are you doing with your time?

"Like Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler or Benito Mussolini Chris?"

That's three people out of a huge list. Hardly a fair cross-section.

"I've found over the years that every vegetairian or visitor from the planet vegan is a city dweller and has absolutly no idea what goes on on a real working farm or has even talked to a farmer."

I live in a city now, but was raised on a farm. I have talked to a 'real' farmer. My family is three generations of farmers.

"I have always thought that vegetarians fall into one of three categories:
1. Vegetarian for health reasons – they all smoke and/or do drugs.
2. Vegetarian because they love animals – they all wear leather (shoes, jackets, belts etc).
3. Vegetarian for spiritual/karmic/be nice to the universe type reasons – they are all arseholes.

Chris – where do you fit in?"

1) I don't smoke drugs and never have.
2) I do love animals and I do not wear leather.
3) I don't try to be nice to the universe, whatever that means, and I am not an arsehole.

OK, most obvious question: Would you want someone ...

2007-08-02T19:44:00.000+12:00

OK, most obvious question: Would you want someone who tells strangers things like "I have a real problem with bodily fluids" going down on you, full stop? I tend not to drop my pants around whack-jobs any more - it makes escape problematic.

while we are beating chris up I thought I should j...

2007-08-02T18:45:00.000+12:00

while we are beating chris up I thought I should join in as well. Chris go to a mirror and open your mouth... See those pointy teeth, they are for ripping flesh you knob.

"I have always thought that vegetarians fall into ...

2007-08-02T15:04:00.000+12:00

"I have always thought that vegetarians fall into one of three categories:
1. Vegetarian for health reasons – they all smoke and/or do drugs.
2. Vegetarian because they love animals – they all wear leather (shoes, jackets, belts etc).
3. Vegetarian for spiritual/karmic/be nice to the universe type reasons – they are all arseholes."

umm, sorry, don't fit into any of those categories. Stupid biggot.

"I've found over the years that every vegetairian ...

2007-08-02T15:01:00.000+12:00

"I've found over the years that every vegetairian or visitor from the planet vegan is a city dweller and has absolutly no idea what goes on on a real working farm or has even talked to a farmer."

I lived my childhood on a farm. We often had animals "home-killed" to put in the freezer. It always disturbed me. See the animal panicking and struggling franticly to hold onto its life ... as the blood gushed from its throat. I always seemed to picture myself as the animal. This is why I believe that vegetarians are generally more empathetic people - it's their tendency to put them self in the animal's position that causes them to become vegetarian.

Similarly, the more empathetic among us cringe at the sight and/or thought of people being slaughtered. Fortunately this is the majority. A minority either don't care or enjoy it.

It's all about what/who you can empathise with. i.e. I don't really care to much when I fly gets killed, as I find it hard to identify/empathise with them. On the other hand, animals that show characteristic common amongst humans i.e. fear, joy, pain, affection, etc ... (most of the ones consumed in our society) are much easier to identify with - So I don't kill/eat them.

Actually, this video says it all much better than I can. So if you want to continuing eating meat probably best not to watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxKnys7Ryw

Chris,It's a very selective list - as John Birming...

2007-08-02T13:48:00.000+12:00

Chris,

It's a very selective list - as John Birmingham points out here. http://blogs.brisbanetimes.com.au/bluntinstrument/archives/2007/08/vegan_maddies.html?page=2#comments

No Hitler, Manson, Pol Pot....

d"It pleases me to watch a man on a date order a "...

2007-08-02T12:38:00.000+12:00

d"It pleases me to watch a man on a date order a "surf and turf" and finish the whole dish. Guess that makes me a Meatsexual."

I'm definitely “vegesexual” - I've generally found vegetarians/vegans to be more compassionate and considerate/thoughtful. As such they're generally better to be close to.

Meat eating is not only involves complicity in the abuse of animals, but also self-abuse. i.e. meat eaters suffer much higher rates cardio vascular disease, obesity, plus stomach and bowl cancer. This indicates to me that they don't respect their fellow sentient beings or themselves.