Ngai Tahu Flog Off More Land Than Westpac To Foreigners
Ngai Tgahu know all about asset sales so should be supporting National's privatisation programme. Here are just two recent examples of Maori more than happy to flog off their assets to foreigners who need OIO approvals.
In 2010 they sold 1348 hectares in Kaikoura to an American couple for 7.5 million dollars. They paid 8 million dollars so made a $500,000 loss.
In 2011 they sold 18,000 hectares of forest to a Swiss owned family company for 22.9 million dollars. And continue to manage it. Alf Grumble reported it at the time on his blog noting the hypocrisy and lies of Tuku Morgan in relation to asset sales. Ngai Tahu sold this land under the euphemism of a "change in investment strategy". National are having that same change in investment strategy selling stakes in SOE's.
“Iwi won’t sell and the investment is intergenerational,” Morgan says.
What ballocks.
The Westpac farms were just under 8,000 hectares. So Maori have already sold in one deal more than twice the land area of the Westpac farms and its export cash flows in forestry.
Now Maori wish to construct an argument that National's privatisation programme cannot go ahead because of the SOE Act due to a conflict with Treaty Principles. More taking of the piss.
Selling assets to locals and foreigners seems to be completely in line with Maori principles of making profit or a loss when inept, for themselves. Ngai Tahu have proven that Maori principles are to sell when it suits them.
Another example of Maori completely taking the piss for their own commercial ends.
No one need think Maori are not immune from selling their precious taonga when required. And there is nothing wrong with this, just don't hide behind the skirt of our Queen Elizabeth and some loosely interpreted Treaty principles when the Crown wishes to do likewise to pay for things like schools, health and a legacy of years of over-spending on welfare on a feral heaving pathetic underclass.
posted by Cactus Kate at 3:07 AM
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http://onenzfoundation.co.nz/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/NEW-ZEALAND-IN-CRISIS-_Book-Contents_2.pdf
a shocking good read and easy to verify the facts too
If it's theirs to sell then it's theirs to sell.
Ngai Tahu's settlement [one of a number of full-and-final over the last century] was mostly based on traditional and cultural use. Where land that had been alienated [or often sold by the tribe] was not available then other Crown land was rolled out in compensation.
The cynical aspect was that once having 'proved' their affiliation and the hurt to their mana over no longer owning certain sites, they flicked them on in rapid order to waiting buyers without a trace of regret.
Locally such quick ownership transactions were referred to as "Tahu Tax"
But, it became theirs in fee simple when both sides signed the deal and there were many instances of them having been royally shafted over the years.
What goes round, comes around.
Kate
As an intelligent person could you please advise as to what are the "Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi"
I have read all available original copies, all 87 words in the ones I can understand, but cannot find any "Principles".
Quote ... "When you sell the land you also sell your rangatiratanga. Therefore, you sell your right to a place"
The word is "bollocks" which certainly applies to the tone of this blog. Greed ineeds an excuse, altruism does not.
Great post, CK!
They're a bunch of hypocritical bastards, the lot of them.
I'll bet the Treaty wasn't even mentioned when Ngai Tahu sold that land, but when the government wants to do a partial asset-sale, out comes the Treaty horse for another trot-around.
I support WhaleOil's suggestion that in response to this, the Nats should have a referendum on the Maori electoral seats.
That'll make the Maori Party pricks pull their heads in.
Well put. You some up the iwi hypocricy so well. al of this posturing is political crap.
Cathy, another excellent post.
Lets see what the MSM says about this....as we wait...and wait...
Kevin Campbell
'years of overspending on welfare'....what a load of bollocks...the economy has been pillaged and plundered by the top 1%,who avoid tax and prosper by political patronage and a corrupt banking system predicated on debt and assisted by customised media misinformation.The economic vandals have succeeded in directing public angst aginst the poor...the perennial scapegoat of the wealthy.Maori have the moral integrity regarding the natural assets of NZ...THAT IS HISTORICALLY UNDENIABLE.They answer to human nature just as you and all the uber capitalist thieves and fraudsters do.
Paulus
Principles of the Treaty....quite simple.
Pander to Maori every time the Treaty is mentioned which generally happens in The last week of January to get everyone worked up for Waitangi.
After an entire law degree I could see the Treaty principles no better described than I want it IWI.
7.43pm...nonsense. Maori have taken the piss for years, they are no better than anyone else in terms of exploiting land, resources and people. Nothing wrong with that however they can never claim superiority under the cloak of fuzzy principles and logic and mythology.
And 7.43pm given the wealth of IWI, aren't they considered now to be the 1% even in NZ? And how much of that wealth have members of respective IWI actually seen in terms of dividend? And how much tax is paid on that wealth? And how many Iwi despite the wealth of their tribe still collect large welfare benefits?
I can just see them asking for it back in another 150 years.
Kate
I respect your knowledge of HKG and China but your knowledge of Maori seems to be lacking. There never has been and never will be a united Maori – Maori (speaking as a Ngai Tahu member) are a collection of tribes who were always fighting amongst each other. What Tuku Morgan says has absolutely nothing to do with what Ngai Tahu says or does (he is Tainui).
With regards to selling land we obtained from suing the Govt for breach of contract, in most cases it is not land of historical significance just land that the crown has available. So we have no reason to keep it and it is sold to invest in other areas/business such as Whale Watch Kaikoura or Shotover Jet which are more profitable/ have better prospects.
With regards to the money tricking down, that happens within the Ngai Tahu tribe, we have Education grants, the subsidised Whai Rawa savings/pension scheme, free outward bound courses and the first right to buy in Ngai Tahu housing developments.
In the future please do not tar Ngai Tahu with brush of what other poorly run tribes say or do.
http://mauistreet.blogspot.com/2012/02/jones-advocates-mining.html#comment-form
And here is where you are wrong. Maori (all Maori) prescribe to this "special connection" with land. Maui has explained perfectly here the hypocrisy of saying one thing when it suits and doing another.
All of a sudden all NZ seems to have a view on what Westpac should do with land that it now owns. NZ never owned Crafars farms when he ran them, he did behind a large mortgage. Crafar claimed connection this land as well. In a last ditch attempt when it was being repossessed by a foreign bank.
What Ngai Tahu does with their land is their own business, however can you not see the hypocrisy that Maui can, where Maori claim "connection" to land when it suits and not when it doesn't?
Everything I have learned about Maori btw has been straight from Maori whether at University or reading blogs like Morgans or from Maori friends or friends of friends. If you can't get your stories straight between yourselves then how the hell do you expect outsiders to have a clue about your little closed shop? And does it surprise you when we all lose interest and scoff at nonsense like this?
Hang on ... honour the Treaty!
Article 2 says that if a tribe can only sell their land as long as they've first given the Crown a pre-emptive to acquire it.
The actual text is ... "but the Chiefs of the United Tribes and the individual Chiefs yield to Her Majesty the exclusive right of Preemption over such lands as the proprietors thereof may be disposed to alienate at such prices as may be agreed upon between the respective Proprietors and persons appointed by Her Majesty to treat with them in that behalf."
I'd like to know if Ngai Tahu offered this land to the Crown before they flogged it ... or are they in breach of their Treaty obligations?
Probably the use of their flag tells it all. They distinctly show the red and black of the anarcho-syndicalist and anarcho-communist, a sub-species of the anarchists so to speak. Putting a sort of Koru in it does not change the underlying ideology. They show clearly that they don't give a toss about any form of state nor country and will always be out to plunder the lot. And that flag has been seen flying over our major city's harbor bridge, now even in Wellington...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_symbolism
Maori have as much right to change their mind as anyone else does.Thats reality.
anon 10.13...what planet are you from?...CK..very spurious case for Iwi being in the 1%. Every minor shareholder in Telecom would qualify by that ludicrous measure.
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