Wednesday, November 10, 2010

Kupe Street - Heatley's Headache

In New Zealand there has been a nauseous over-reporting in newspapers and the general media about the affordability of housing, particularly in Auckland. Such has led to silly first home buyer subsidies and the like to attract young people into debt they may not be able to manage. During a sortee to the 'hood by a keen local, I was introduced to one of the most affordable streets in Auckland, the average land and buildings on a property worth just $362,000*. Affordable to first home buyers even with moderate incomes.




This is Kupe Street in Orakei.

Here is what the current Minister of Housing had to say about Kupe Street back in 2007:

Housing spokesman Phil Heatley said it was "a joke" that million-dollar state homes could not be sold until the tenants moved out, including $2m properties in Glen Innes and Orakei.

"Any policy to sell these multimillion-dollar state homes when they become vacant is meaningless."

We agree with Phil Heatley circa 2007. When a private owner doesn't pay their mortgage they are booted out by the bank and have to move to lesser surrounds with their children who lose friends and their current schooling. A business person goes under and has to downsize. All very sad but a reality of life. Other people when they change jobs are forced to move cities, I don't see how moving beneficiaries can possibly cause concern given they have absolutely no justification for living in an area so close to the city or work centres, because guess what? They don't work. They don't need to live in expensive areas in close proximity to their work do they?

Phil Heatley was concerned about Kupe Street before he was a Minister.

Yet, take a trip today up Kupe Street and you will see some of the most expensive real estate (land only) sitting under some of the worst kept properties in Auckland with tenants who clearly have no pride in the appearance of their neighbourhood and community.

comes complete with outdoor furniture

You will see what seems to be burnt out P labs with boarded-up windows. And also cruise down the street and find the numerous satellite Sky dishes and the ubiquitous functions tent for fry-ups and parties. Fertile ground for numerous visits at night by Police Helicopters interrupting the peace.


shutters up preparing for Hurricane Heatley?
hot views from top floor


In the interests of fairness and accuracy I did take the step of contacting the Minister's office and Housing New Zealand has this response:

"HNZC has 69 properties in Kupe Street and Ngati Whatua own another 69 (CK - as part of a treaty settlement). In the last 12 months, HNZC have received only two complaints relating to properties they own, one regarding a loud party and the other related to rubbish in the garden and the ownership of an unauthorised dog".

HNZC and the Minister's office were quick to emphasise that they did not own all the homes in the street, therefore it was possible that the homes that captured my attention were Ngati Whatua's. I guess as the neighbours are partying away themselves, there would not be many complaints would there? If living next to that, I would be afraid to complain to anyone about the neighbours' activities for fear of reprisal. Like a brick through the window or a few dents in the car.

friendly Maori independence flag at top left hand corner

cars parked all over property for party

How much are the HNZC properties worth? Well according to HNZC when asked "the average land value of these properties is $292,000 and the average house value is $70,000"*. This being the case even first home buyers could afford a property in this street. I simply don't believe the land valuation method.



Have a look at the view....due to the wideness of the street, even on the right hand side of the street heading to the Point, you could build a two or three storey house to have sweeping views over Auckland.



Why are state housing tenants placed in these properties when the land can be sold at market and the profits used to either relocate them or investigate quite why these families deserve to live in what must be some of Auckland's most expensive land? Phil Heatley campaigned on cleaning up the sad state of affairs. What is he doing about it? Building more houses that's what he is doing. Build more houses and they will come. And come. Rather than re-evaluating the usage and limiting the eligibility they are creating a demand.

If Ngati Whatua own 69 of these homes, most in what can only be described in parts of the street, as slum conditions, then why on earth aren't they being forced by their own people to maximise and distribute profits from this expensive real estate, across their people? Or if they choose to keep such property making the tribe asset rich but cash poor, why can't the taxpayer means-test individual members of that tribe to reflect their true worth when applying for taxpayer benefits?
The history of Orakei and Ngati Whatua is of course controversial and racially very sensitive. In 1952 the Queen's visit was used as an excuse to clean out Okahu village, but it is 2010 and surely we don't need a Royal visit as an excuse to ensure the street is cleaned up, not with a police invasion and arson of course, but some basic pride in maintenance and future planning for development that would assist in increasing the value of HNZC properties.

I will be blunt as someone has to say so, Kupe Street is an assault on the eye. During my quick visit barely warranted cars littered lawns, children played unsupervised dangerously close to the road and one car parked itself smack bang in the middle of the road. At the end of Kupe Street sits an early childhood centre - one of the most expensive in the country with their view, and a retirement home that has been developed by local parties. It is heavily gated in for security and monitored. The kind of place you would threaten to put the mother-in-law if she behaved badly.

The issue being of course is that millionaires who can afford to pay the government true market rates for these sites and then develop them into a beautiful street, do not wish to live in a slum like this and until the street is fully developed and beneficiaries removed, then there is no way I guess that HNZC can get a fair value for the homes on the block. HNZC seems to be stuck between a rock and a hard place. They can't sell the properties for a decent price while Ngati Whatua do nothing with the area, and Ngati Whatua I understand have first right to buy the properties in any instance so have an incentive to keep the values low and drive HNZC out. Little thought appears to have gone into the future planning of the area.

I have no issues with Ngati Whatua's property rights to their 69 houses and am not suggesting taking the homes off them, but what I do have an issue with is the pleading of poverty of groups in society who go cap in hand to other groups in society, when they are asset rich, yet cash poor and are not harvesting maximum potential from those assets and distributing the wealth between otherwise impoverished members of their group. Communal ownership of assets needs to be reflected when means testing the tribe members as a whole. At present they have it both ways, pleading poverty individually while as a function of time and inflation the value of their assets increases.

Prima facie Ngati Whatua can't do a lot with the area because they have no cash or incentives to do so. Or do they not have the cash? This puff piece of reporting suggests otherwise. If so they have no excuse for not cleaning up Kupe Street if Ngati Whatua are doing so well commercially as this piece suggests.

It is one thing that Maori are given land back like this under Treaty settlements. I think most New Zealanders have a reasonable sense of fair play when it comes to settling past grievances and shrugged at the time that with the money and land given that Maori would be self-sufficient and rely less on the taxpayer such that it was a win-win. What New Zealanders find harder to swallow is that Maori and beneficiaries still have their hands out when they are sitting pretty in slum housing on some of the most expensive real estate imaginable. This street and a few surrounding should be of equal value to a Paritai Drive when developed properly. When working New Zealanders are struggling to buy even a modest home in an area with a view backing on to the neighbours fence. Being asset rich and cash poor doesn't actually help anyone, all that is happening is the taxpayer has to front with more cash. That is, taxpayers are paying twice, once for the Treaty settlements and again for maintenance and upkeep of Maori extravagance of tribal ownership and being asset rich and cash poor with a failure to distribute funds to those who need it.

Maori have of course an aversion to sell land as they have a waffly touchy thing about holding it for future generations. Curiously, just like everyone else in New Zealand, and indeed the world. The sad fact is that the current generation of Maori isn't prospering. And despite billions poured into Maori education, health and welfare by net-taxpaying Maori and non-Maori, they are still going backwards. And while welfare agencies keep forking out billions for their underachievement there is absolutely no incentive for Maori to become self-sufficient when Nanny State pays for their worst and poorest.

The net wealth of Maori tribes in New Zealand is simply still not reflected in the success or wealth of their individual people. Waking up with that screaming view of Auckland, why on earth would you want to leave your house as any tenant? Or do anything to lose your eligibility to live there and have to move to a part of town where the "working poor" less privileged by race or luck of the HNZC draw live. Suckers.

The best thing for HNZC (the taxpayer) would be to get together with Ngati Whatua and collectively sell the street to one developer who would then manage the sale and beautification of the street and share the profits with both current landlords. Like what Viaduct Harbour Holdings did to the waterfront area, only freehold title because New Zealanders are (quite rightly) suspicious of leasehold property, given many developments have increased in ground rent such that the tenants' rent barely covers the ground rent let alone the mortgage of the landlord, Ngati Whatua's own developments included. Ngati Whatua start to collect ground rent in this linked development from August 2011. Already apartments in that area have suffered from a range of leaky building (Railway Campus), to terribly incorrect original valuations (The Landings, The Docks, Hudson Brown), massive increases in cost structure could just about kill it off as the whole development down there is starting to look like Joel Monaghan with a Labrador.

futile attempt at development

At present Kupe Street, like many areas full of a bad mix of Maori and State housing, sits as part of the problem in New Zealand, not the solution. The problem seems not one of resources as there are plenty of resources, that is a fact, but resource allocation and common sense.

It's all very well and good to say that these tenants have an entitlement to live in potentially one of the most expensive areas of Auckland, but at a practical level it doesn't make sense and it doesn't send the right signals to those hard-working Maori and non-Maori New Zealanders paying for the extravagence of excessively generous State Housing and welfare benefits for life.

30 Comments:

Anonymous Caleb said...

Quality piece.

10:08 PM, November 10, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good, well Cactus is back then.

11:48 PM, November 10, 2010  
Blogger pollywog said...

hmmm...jealous much ?

pissed off Pasifikans don't measure success in the same capitalist way you do ?

or operate to a timeline that suits you ?

diddums...you got kids ?

i'd say set em up to marry into Ngati Whatua and try to change things that way, otherwise you're setting yourself up for a replacement foo foo valve operation

hey maybe you could suck up to 'smile and wave' and see if you can't crash the party list and do that heatley twit out of his job and fast track your agenda...

12:03 AM, November 11, 2010  
Blogger Cactus Kate said...

I see taxpayer money on those English classes at school was well spent Pollywog.

If "success" is living in what barely passes as better than tents, in potentially the flashest part of town sitting on assets while their people have no cash, then they have loads of it.

So much "success" that Ngati Whatua should have Tino rangitiratanga by now. It appears they still rely on others.

To suggest marrying into a tribe to share in the resources is redundant isn't it? Considering the resources aren't even been shared currently. Point of the piece.

12:52 AM, November 11, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with Caleb.

As for Pollywog, is success measured by being scruffy, lazy, untidy, child/wife/partner(for the time being) bashers, violent, threatening, abusive, inconsiderate, drunk/drugged and needing constant taxpayer support. While the rest of us are not immune to studid and self destructive behaviour we don't call it success.

The Bible says a man that does not support his family is about as low as it goes. Welcome to welfare with attitude.

7:43 AM, November 11, 2010  
Blogger pollywog said...

Marrying into an iwi won't guarantee you a share of resources but it might give you a legitimate voice beyond whinging on the interweb

...and I'd say the resources are definitely being shared, though obviously not as much as you would like and not according to your culture or custom.

it's Ngati Whatua's choice to exercise tino rangatiratanga however they like on their whenua, in their rohe and if this is how they choose to, then you'll just have to suck it up

i'm sure they didnt ask for a supercity to be built on their doorstep and spoil the view across the Waitemata

just in the interests of balance cos i'd hate to think you're brown bashing from some sense of cultural superiority

maybe your next piece could be on fatcat politicians rorting the system for accom benefits they don't need and barely qualify for

with some flash pics of their porn star studio looking private residences, their high class hooker inspired rented accom and allusions to their taxpayer funded lifestyle of free lunches, travel and how well paid they are to do sweet FA based on a smug sense of entitlement ?

9:03 AM, November 11, 2010  
Anonymous Josh said...

Just for clarification for myself, coz I know nothing about this .. are you able to tell me if it's Te Runanga o Ngati Whatua who own these properties or if it is Ngati Whatua o Orakei? Thanks.

9:46 AM, November 11, 2010  
Anonymous vdog said...

Good piece Cactus, just a couple of points to note/add:
1. There's a whole pile (I'm guessing hundreds if not thousands) of pensioners in the Eastern Bays and other now-expensive areas of Auckland who have million dollar homes but very little income. I assume by your logic that we should also expect them to trade down rather than offering rates reductions etc. I'm not arguing for or against that, just note that it's pretty much the same thing as what you've written and it's not only iwi/beneficiaries we need to look at.

2. Even if we do build state houses elsewhere there's no evidence that we'll do that sensibly either - see this story: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10673953. Why on earth we're putting these people into 1000m2 sections that could have two or three houses on them is beyond me - just another example of how those who are supported by the state often get a better deal than those who PAY for that support can.

12:54 PM, November 11, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had similar thoughts when going for a drive around the back of St Clair beach in Dunedin. Absolutely stunning views up by the golf course, but littered with state houses.

1:54 PM, November 11, 2010  
Blogger Jeremy Harris said...

This street is potentially Paritai Dr 2, just with a view of the city instead of Rangitoto...

I believe lots of the 69 HCNZ houses are tenanted by people who also from the same Marae at the end of the street who owns 69 houses on the street (essentially the whole street)... As such it is seen as almost part of the Marae...

I'm worked in a law enforcement agency that was responsible for the street, I went up there a few times, an attitude for sure but the only problem was a bit of verbal abuse...

I don't think the street will ever change...

5:10 PM, November 11, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You tell them Cactus. Maori can't have it both ways. The money and the bag. I was supportive of Treaty settlements. Ngati Whatua have settled. I am not supportive of Tribes coming back for more money or in this case, not using their assets to benefit all of the Tribe. Fine with whatever they do with their own assets, just don't expect me to pay for their neglect of the poorest in their Tribe. Surely by 2010 Maori should be using their own assets to increase individual Tribe members wealth? Or perhaps they don't want to repeat the same mistakes us silly whiteys have of giving money to losers.

10:35 PM, November 11, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will snow in hell before whitey developer gets any of that land. Party on bro.

10:38 PM, November 11, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Cactus

Your credibility has taken a big hit. DHC descibes you as "kind" in today's Herald. WTF.

10:38 AM, November 12, 2010  
Blogger Cactus Kate said...

vdog - yes, the oldies should all go. And of course they have income...all plead poverty but sitting on a million + property and saying you are too poor to go to a retirement home? Nonsense.

2. Sell all State houses. Think what would happen to property values? Yep that's right, they'd make them more affordable for NZers. Trouble is equity would end up diminishing as well as your electoral appeal.

Josh

"Te Runanga o Ngati Whatua who own these properties or if it is Ngati Whatua o Orakei? Thanks".

From my emails with the Minister's office it seems specifically Ngati Whatua o Orakei own them.

The relationship between the parties is described here:

http://www.ngatiwhatuaorakei.com/Business/about-the-ngati-whatua-o-orakei-maori-trust-board.html

8:12 PM, November 12, 2010  
Blogger Cactus Kate said...

Pollywog

Maori can do what they like with their assets. They are theirs. They however don't have the right to plead poverty anymore and come back to the taxpayer impoverished when they are sitting on these assets that can be realised with returns.

It's a kin in European culture to families setting up trusts then pleading poverty when means tested for government assistance. Something I am too against.

And you are clearly not a regular comprehender if you don't think I ignore politicians (brown and not so brown) taking the piss out of entitlements.

I think you have a refined sense of cultural inferiority that needs to be adjusted by getting your own head out of your arse and stop pleading excuses for your failure and that of your "indigenous" peoples.

8:22 PM, November 12, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Maori can do what they like with their assets. They are theirs. They however don't have the right to plead poverty anymore and come back to the taxpayer impoverished when they are sitting on these assets that can be realised with returns."


You haven't presented any evidence that the residents of Kupe St (or Ngati Whatua o Orakei for that matter) are pleading poverty.

I hope you're not suggesting Maori to all belong to a single homogeneous group?

The land will still be there tomorrow and will likely be worth more tomorrow. Choosing not to develop today seems as valid a choice as any other.

11:40 PM, November 12, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Muldoon got his arse kicked at Bastion Point when he tried to do a deal to secure a chunk of that land for property developers ($2M if I remember rightly). If Muldoon couldn't do it then Heatley wont either and some chick blogging out out of Hong Kong has even less chance of getting a result.

11:29 AM, November 13, 2010  
Blogger pollywog said...

au contraire Ms Cactus...

i'm not making excuses, i'm giving reasons and laying the majority of blame for our past and present failures on the eurocentric cultural bias inherent in successive NZ gov'ts since the treaty was signed

FWIW, i have a refined sense of cultural superiority that wil be borne out by future generations

our successes in all fields of endeavour are only beginnng to mount and are sure to increase exponentially

sounds like your lot are wanting one last big land grab to pass on to your progeny before you all die off and become assimilated...your resistance is futile

your kind had your chance and failed...deal with it !!!

11:56 AM, November 13, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I live behind this street - those fuckers rob our house all the time - ship them out asap

10:22 PM, November 13, 2010  
Anonymous chris said...

Hi Kate:

If the land is on Euro title -- then the runanga can either sell it (and invest), or least the land out -- or live their.

Completely their choice. But they are asset rich, and can't get handouts.

If it is land under the Maori Land Act, then they have some more difficulties... but the issue is one of attitude.

Some iwi (mainly a certain one in the South Island) have leveraged their treaty settlements well. Others have not. Maintaining inherited assets is a black art -- one generation can ruin the family.

There is no moral difference here between the iwi and landed families -- once you have the capital, you have no moral right to ask for welfare.

11:11 PM, November 14, 2010  
Blogger WAKE UP said...

Pollywog: okay, now give me back my guitars - all ten of them (let's see if your education permits you to get that metaphor)

10:56 AM, November 15, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The settlements don't leave them asset rich or cash rich. Divide the total tribal settlements by beneficiatries and in some places you get around $1000, in Tainui $10,000. So rich.

9:16 PM, November 15, 2010  
Blogger Cactus Kate said...

Pollywog, all your comments to date have merely suggested as a solution that I date a Maori and have part-Maori children.

Is there something you aren't sharing?

Land-grabbing comes in the form of raising finance and buying it. An unlikely concept for you culturally I know but perhaps you should marry a rich whitey or immigrant Asian and they will give you the money to do so.

As for the past, a) treaty settlements paid for those apparent breaches and b) taxpayers have been handing out disproportionate amounts of money to Maori and Pacific people for generations. Hasn't worked has it? You want something, work hard and buy it. Most New Zealanders have to do such from a zero base and build their family wealth over generations.

11.40pm - beneficiaries by definition are "pleading poverty" when they fill in their forms.

9:32 PM, November 15, 2010  
Blogger pollywog said...

all your advice amounts to some sort of "use it or lose it" policy Kate.

if maori aren't willing to use Kupe st to benefit the fatcat millionaires who want a flashhouse overlooking auckland then they should be dispossesed of it ?

taxpayers have been handing out disproportionate amounts of money to Maori and Pacific people for generations.

gov't/business have been ripping off disproportionate amounts of land and resources from Pasifikan people for generations too and perpetuating a system through the courts to rule in favour of said gov'ts /business

whats your point ?

we should be grateful and better use our 'benefits' to educate ourselves and aspire to be loyal hardworking cpaitalists with flash houses and cars to show off with ?

tell me, why you think Pasifikans are bottom of the heap in jail, health, education and employment stats ?

is it cos we're stupid, lazy and violent or is there something else...something eurocentric NZ is reluctant to share ?

something that in 2 generations of building our wealth on a level playing field we won't be able to overcome and realise through self determination ?

if handing out intergenerational benefits as a benevolent form of gov't charity didn't work, what makes you think any policy designed by eurocentric cultural elitists is gonna work ?

i reckon you really should start thinking about adopting a more Pasifikan cultural perspective Kate and an identity to suit , maybe form some bloodties to the land, wind your clock back and then start keeping island time.

lose the eurocentric bias, lose the stress

8:50 AM, November 16, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I looked up my copy of the treaty but couldn't find this outfit in it as a signatory (no fib - I have a copy). No doubt the mists of time confuse things but maybe they stayed home on the day and had a mate sign it on their behalf. I wonder if it was the same mate that sold stuff to whitey even tho it wasn't his?

12:32 PM, November 17, 2010  
Blogger Cactus Kate said...

8.50am - always your answer, become as lazy and be dragged down to be equal to the laziest. Way to build prosperity. I trust you will be camping out on Kupe Street in a tent with all the current residents when their homes fall down around them.

1:20 AM, November 24, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ngati Whatua scored a Treaty settlement of $5 mil. They now have assets worth around $400 mil. This "right" to buy up so-called surplus Crown properties sure is a doozie.

9:36 AM, November 28, 2010  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

do you actually know the real reason why they are living on that hill in the first place cactas kate, maybe you should take that into concideration aswel as the fact the ngati whatua o orakei have numerous leased out peices property not to benifit them selves but to benifit generations to come, none of this life time we will see. the land doesnt belong to these individual people ocupying it so its not theirs to sell it belongs to the marae which is for people as a whole.

2:57 PM, March 14, 2011  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For your info the burnt block of units was'nt from a 'P' lab,the fire started from a unit that had just become vacant, the tenants had not long left.Four other families lived in that block not all Ngati Whaatua or maori.when people stop speculating and assuming things we mite be able to sort the flowers from the thorns!

1:43 PM, April 21, 2011  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cactus Kate.

Your comments show nothing but cultural ignorance.

Kupe Street is one of the remaining parts of the Orakei area that remains in Maori hands. The rest has been horrifically confiscated by the Crown. This land is all these people have left. This is the land where their ancestors lived and where their ancestors are buried. This land is not theirs to sell. If you understand anything about the Maori conception of land you will understand that Maori value their land as an ancestral treasure, not a capital asset.

The jurisprudential conceptions of land ownership and the Maori relationship with land are what strikes at the heart of this misunderstanding. You need to look past your British conception of land and appreciate the value of land from a Maori perspective.

The drinking, the drugs and the cycle of poverty and abuse occurring on Kupe Street should sadden you. These are serious social problems that are currently so prominent in New Zealand that the majority of New Zealanders turn a blind eye to. These are social problems that are going to take more than a bit of money from the sale of the houses on Kupe Street to fix.

New Zealand does have an overly large proportion of people, not just Maori, dependant on government assistance. But we need to look past these statistics and ask why. We need to address the social issues behind them. Focusing on the sale of assets is not the answer. Sales would only provide short term capital, not the ongoing ability for people to provide for their own sustenance and prosperity which is what these people need.

You appear to be mocking people for living in “what barely passes as better than tents”. You are mocking people stuck in a cycle of poverty and abuse. You show no understanding of the social reasons why these people live in these conditions.

If you lived the lives these people have lived I doubt you would have the self dignity to show pride in your property (or even have the money to be able to show it).

Kupe Street belongs to the Maori people. Not someone with millions and Paratai drive aspirations.

4:10 PM, July 09, 2011  

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