Poster Child For What Is Wrong
So very much is wrong here....

So this is:
- sickness benefit
- "partner" who doesn't work
- on a wait list at housing NZ for an even larger house
- on a wait list in the public health system for an operation for a questionable illness
- a high user of the community card and GP system
"I couldn't believe it but I sort of had a feeling, though. I used to look at women with twins and think you are so lucky - now I have three sets," she said.
Lucky? No "lucky" is all those good women who medically cannot have children or find it difficult to conceive with a partner, having a child. That is lucky. This woman is just a future DPB breeding machine. Having her first lot 10 years ago at age 21, the next lot 2 years ago at age 29. The only thing this woman is good at is breeding.
Coping with the sets is not easy. She is on a sickness benefit and her partner of nine years, Wiremu Kokiri, is a hands-on dad while he looks for work.
Hmm...."coping" denotes there was no choice in the matter. The first set of children are 10 and she's been with Wiremu for nine. Closing one's legs or the use of contraception is always a choice. Especially when her hyper-fertility has been proven.
The couple are hoping Housing New Zealand will find them a bigger house, but they are not in the top priority queue.
Hoping? This is all this couple will ever do. Hope. Hope that the taxpayer will keep funding their lifestyle. Hope that their kids will be looked after by the State and taxpayers because they sure as hell cannot.
"We are on a low income so we live on the basics. I am on the sickness benefit for my fibromyalgia [muscle and joint pain which leads to weakness in joints]. I have to have cortisone injections but I still get numb fingers and pins and needles. I am on the waiting list to get an operation," she said.
No, you are not on a "low income". You have NO income and it sounds like neither of you have had any income for a long time. Net beneficiaries for life this couple. Any income they have is 100% reliant on the taxpayer.
This is precisely why being a mother cannot be compared to a job in the workforce. This woman now has six children that she is enjoying playing mother to. Giving her the only purpose in her life. An activity that takes up so much energy and stress, yes. Her "fibromyalgia" allows her to be a mother to three sets of twins but she can't get off her arse and get a job. And why would she? Fibromyalgia is basically a condition that doesn't cure itself but a tag given when the medics haven't a clue what's actually wrong with you. I have been diagnosed with it at University, as did many contemporaries of mine who spent hours studying hunched over a desk. It was the "in" diagnosis at the time. The issue being that you have to ignore the diagnosis, harden the fuck up and deal with it. Having six children would hardly help controlling the symptoms if you actually had the condition. The cause of this woman's fibromyalgia may be long hours stuck in one position watching daytime television.
Usually astute tabloid journalist Carolyne Meng-Yee did not ask or investigate the one thing everyone should be asking, how much money is the taxpayer spending on these eight net beneficiaries for life?
Usually astute tabloid journalist Carolyne Meng-Yee did not ask or investigate the one thing everyone should be asking, how much money is the taxpayer spending on these eight net beneficiaries for life?
So this is:
- sickness benefit
- "partner" who doesn't work
- on a wait list at housing NZ for an even larger house
- on a wait list in the public health system for an operation for a questionable illness
- a high user of the community card and GP system
Any system that allows such a demographic to breed, and then turns around and encourages them to keep having children over a period of a decade that they cannot afford, really deserves the outcome it gets. More welfarism.
The fact of the matter is that this couple are better not to work in the current system. They would have to have an income they will never receive while working to actually "earn" more than they are being given by the taxpayer for popping out more children. Minger claims that the Treena is on a sickness benefit but that contradicts earlier media reports that before the babies were born she was planning to go back to work as a "caregiver". I back Minger's reporting. If this woman is medically unfit to work looking after someone else and be compensated with a sickness benefit then how the hell can she look after six children?
These children are born into welfare. Children with stuff all hope of doing any better than their parents. With the current welfare system there is no other thing for the poor taxpayer to do but chalk up the fact that they will be slaving their guts out to pay for the lives of the SFNS (silly first name syndromed) family from hell:
Sharaz & Shaqiel
Daklan & Darius
Kramer & Kelly
I can't see how the New Zealand taxpayer will ever get a return from this family. The country would be better off writing them a cheque for one's years welfare as a sort of redundancy (non-returnable passage on the passport) and shipping them permanently to a country that can afford to keep them - Australia.
Both Labour and National policies have already written this family off because it makes it nearly impossible with the "carrot" system in place that this family will ever get off welfare. It's time for some "stick" to balance the "hug a benny" policies of the past and try a new approach. Making families like this comply with a policy of affordability in their family planning.
The fact of the matter is that this couple are better not to work in the current system. They would have to have an income they will never receive while working to actually "earn" more than they are being given by the taxpayer for popping out more children. Minger claims that the Treena is on a sickness benefit but that contradicts earlier media reports that before the babies were born she was planning to go back to work as a "caregiver". I back Minger's reporting. If this woman is medically unfit to work looking after someone else and be compensated with a sickness benefit then how the hell can she look after six children?
These children are born into welfare. Children with stuff all hope of doing any better than their parents. With the current welfare system there is no other thing for the poor taxpayer to do but chalk up the fact that they will be slaving their guts out to pay for the lives of the SFNS (silly first name syndromed) family from hell:
Sharaz & Shaqiel
Daklan & Darius
Kramer & Kelly
I can't see how the New Zealand taxpayer will ever get a return from this family. The country would be better off writing them a cheque for one's years welfare as a sort of redundancy (non-returnable passage on the passport) and shipping them permanently to a country that can afford to keep them - Australia.
Both Labour and National policies have already written this family off because it makes it nearly impossible with the "carrot" system in place that this family will ever get off welfare. It's time for some "stick" to balance the "hug a benny" policies of the past and try a new approach. Making families like this comply with a policy of affordability in their family planning.

26 Comments:
Amen!
Paying them a lump sum to be sterilised (both of them) would be an excellent idea as well. They might not understand but they would do it for the money or maybe a bigger house.
Not even husband CK, "partner" that wonderful word for transient sperm donors for these types of women
Yes, but why do you give Whaleoil a free ride?
Rip out her friggin' over-active uterus with a boathook!
Enough to make you vote Libertarianz 2011 ;)
Everyone focuses on "their" rights nevermind how this ends up violating other's rights - these people believe they have a right to reproduce nevermind that it becomes our (taxpayers) hard slog to basically raise their kids and them. People who can't afford to have kids shouldn't have them - end of story. No wonder NZ is becoming a third world country. Money that can be used for investment is instead being used on irresponsible, and dare I say dumb people like these, who can't see the implications of their selfish decisions.
9.15pm - "free ride"? Whale picks me up for lunch when I am in Auckland.
What do you mean a free ride? Taking Cactus anywhere costs you big time...
I blogged on this breeder and her SFNS afflicted offspring a week ago.
I'm calling bullshit on her.
Neither cortisone injections nor operations are even listed as possible treatments for "fibromyalgia" if that is indeed what she has.
Actually from her description I'd suggest she is actually suffering PND....and who wouldn't after having 6 kids on a benefit...if I wasn't depressed before that i would be after.
If any one knows about depression it is me, but you don't see me going out and adding to my family...or anything else to increase stress.
This is why I am opposed to mining. The dumb-knuckle National government would just use the proceeds to encourage more of this sort of breeding. Well said Cactus.
HOS could do us all a favour and publish more stories like the current Sun tabloid in UK where they expose bludgers living in million pound properties and scumming welfare.
I bet this silly 'twat' of a woman 'just loves children'... bah... 8 wasted lives.... and taxpayers have to support the creation of 6 more dyed in the wool Labour voters and bludgers... feck...
By your own admission, you aren't paying tax to the country that provided states subsides for your childhood and tertiary education.
Be careful of throwing stones Kate. You've been a beneficiary even if you don't care to admit it.
Why youse Kiwis so upset? This is New Zealand the way you wanted it. These breeders, & those critters who "administer" the system that plunders others to sustain 'em, are the majority in New Zealand. This is an example of Kiwi cultcha- near its highest achievement (but not quite there yet). You deserve this!
Excellent article!
When will the National govt (=Labour Lite) do something about it?
In the 'too-hard' basket?
Like this you mean?
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/1016715/The-single-young-mum-who-brags-about-boozing-and-partying-off-her-benefits.html
11.08am - doubtful given the amount of taxes I paid before and now after leaving the country and that I had private health insurance the entire time I was a PAYE taxpayer. Lets not even count the alcohol duty I pay on top of that GST. More than happy to state I am in the black on that one.
Yes, welfare and Working for Families are incentives to have more children and work less.
The income splitting bill would provide an incentive for middle incomers to have children too. It would lessen the pain of being in the top tax bracket while you start a family and lose a paycheck.
More bloggers should support income splitting. (Talking to you Whaleoil.)
What about the 6 kids though? They didn't choose to be brought into this world. Should they have their food/education/healthcare removed because their parents made a stupid decision to have children that they can't afford?
Hold on just a minute here. You make several assumptions here that I don't think you should so carelessly make.
1. You assume that the woman in question was not using birth control at the time. She may well have been and it may have malfunctioned. This DOES happen. No birth control is fool proof.
2. You assume that her husband is in actuality not all that interested in finding work. He may be searching very hard but in this economy may not be able to find work at the time. I doubt he likes the situation any more than you do. At least he is staying around in order to help mum and kids instead of leaving in order to find seasonal work or some other chick who is working!
3. You do not know the severity of her disease
4. You do not know how long she has not been working or whether she plans to return to work if her illness get better/find work that she could do with her illness.
5. You cannot know that the children will not grow up to be contributing members of society! My friend was the 5th of eight kids who were brought up on welfare, she is working as a florist, her sister has a BA and a teaching degree and is working and her brother is a diver instructor and computer programmer. Her younger siblings are completing school and have bright ambitions.
Stop being such a bloody fatalist.
Having a baby is a gift even its twin,triplets, or quadruplets that is a gift from God.
Hannah
1. birth control? three times it's failed.
2. yeah
3. it was so unserious that before she fell pregnant she was apparently looking for work again.
4. she's 31 and has had children from the age of 21 through to 29. Not alot of time to actually be int he workforce is there?
5. Did she have silly first name syndrome? Welfare of the past is very different to welfare of today.
Eric - no it is an interaction of rooting between egg and sperm. "God" has nothing to do with it.
I have a brother with one child who works a min of 50 hours per week as a joiner (on a decent wage)and a partner who works part time as well and they admit that having another kid would mean that their finances would be competely down the toilet....so I really don't understand how these people survive...even on welfare....i'm amazed.
Yes well that's the difference isn't it? Your brother has actually *thought* about it and decided not to!
Fatalist? I'll give you fucking fatalist:
None of these people, the six "kids" or the two "adults" are independent human beings. They are all bludgers through and through. As such, they have no human rights.
Anyone who "post-birth aborts" the kids, whether the 2 week old, 2 year olds 10 year olds, or 30 year olds is doing the rest of us one huge favour
Should they have their food/education/healthcare removed because their parents made a stupid decision to have children that they can't afford?
Abso-FUCKING-lutey. It's called... umm freedom. You should try it some time.
Paying them a lump sum to be sterilised...
The country would be better off writing them a cheque for one's years welfare...
For fuck's sake! Far better than taking 1/8th of that check as a bounty for anyone who guns any of 'em down.
Far better still to admit the simple truth: NZ cannot afford any benefits or welfare any more: and just cancel the lot!
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