Government Doesn't Make Good Farmers
The most thought provoking from HP are these:
9. Should the taxpayer have $1668.7m tied up in farms?
10. Are dividends of $10m last year, $13m in 2007/08, $12m in 2006/07 and $3m in 2005/06 good returns on that investment?
The answers are no and no, that is a terrible return on investment (.6%) but indicative of the whole concept that farming in New Zealand is now solely for non-taxable capital gains over taxable revenue returns. As a business model, from a large corporate enterprise, receiving a .6% return on investment does not stack up.
Total revenues of Landcorp are just $174.1 million, with net operating profit of $6.9 million. The net operating profit just a .4% return on assets. Total shareholder returns was a loss of $76 million.
Landcorp has a mission statement "To provide the shareholding Ministers with maximum sustainable financial returns.".
They sure aren't doing that.
Let us not even start on how little tax this SOE pays. Go have a look and see.
Landcorp, by stepping up to bid for the Crafar farms puts a spotlight on itself as to why in an economy where SOE's are looking to be sold, that Landcorp shouldn't be the first off the block. Is Government holding more than $1.5 billion of land, artificially holding land prices above where the market would have them?
And why taxation reforms are still required to ensure farming pays their fair share of taxes. Gareth Morgan's capital gains tax regime and Bernard Hickey pushing land taxes, now just doesn't seem so far fetched if farmers don't want to pay for their fair share of polluting if John Key and the Tree-hugger from Nelson go ahead with the ETS.
I've been researching what percentage of total taxes in New Zealand is actually paid by the leading export earner in agriculture. The IRD and Department of Statistics haven't given an answer as of yet.
Fonterra doesn't seem to widely publish in glorious numbers how much tax the farmer actually ends up paying. You can compare that with their obsession in telling New Zealanders how successful and important their oufit is - talking about high-value products being the future, never actually having delivered this high-end product and into a market such as China that is as tight as a fishes backside that still cares only about one four letter word starting with "c" - cost. Chinese Vice-President Xi's recent visit to New Zealand was almost overshadowed by Russel Norman's ditherings and we missed the most important statement from Xi when he said New Zealand dairy is too expensive, which in Chinese code is that they wish to manipulate the prices downwards themselves.
Of course high leveraging means plenty of income can be tax-deducted resulting in farmers paying far less tax than other taxpayers. Meaning more farmers buy more land and drive prices up as well as reducing income taxes, and increasing eventually their tax free capital gain.
It is a vicious cycle of lending reliance that could be assisted with a carve up of Landcorp.

12 Comments:
This MAF site on the National Dairy Model might help.
JC
http://tinyurl.com/27qxmjx
Interesting post Cactus, certainly I get a little sick of my relations giving townies crap about how much we earn, when they conveniently ignore that they earn more in capital gain & it's tax free !!!.
If I was had serious money to invest, I'd be putting it into a dairy factory personally, figuring within 3-5 years fontera's payout will drop & farmers will be desperate for alternative processing.
JC
Pretty conclusive answers there - stuff all compared with their incomes and most is able to be deducted for interest and the capital gains that this interest pays for is tax free.
You're right that's a terrible return on investment.
Good farmers are in business for more than capital gain - cash is still king - and I don't want any more taxes.
But I'd be very happy to see Lancorp sell its farms. Gradual sales would get the state out of farming without flooding the market.
The two years in the link JC gave were particualry bad ones for dairying.
A big drop in payout while costs remained high and widesread drought meant most farmers made losses.
That wouldn't be the norm.
"Pretty conclusive answers there - stuff all compared with their incomes and most is able to be deducted for interest and the capital gains that this interest pays for is tax free."
Yep. Farming does itself no good by evaluating viability based on price per stock unit rather than price per hectare. Animals are commodities that can soar or slump dramatically but land prices rise and tend to stay high regardless.
That dairy interest cost is terrifyingly high and shows an industry, banking sector and an economy sitting on a precipice.
JC
Nice try Cactus, but unimpressive.
You conveniently muddle a Government run business, speculators, corporates and mix that lot up with traditional family farming and tff values.
You ignore the huge volume of agricultural export receipts received and enjoyed by the NZ economy and further ignore the fact and reality that only a very little finally trickles through to the grassroots productive base. A consequence of an inefficient,high cost, cost plus, Big Government lumbered economy. Significant amounts that provide living, lifestyle, tax or whatever throughout the NZ economy.How much would the NZ economy shrink if agriculture was excluded? Nigel offered his preference for a dairy factory over working the land. Why? If the money is so easy Nigel? You must be a saint!
Family or traditional type farms continue usually through peaks & troughs. Nigel doesn't explain how with this model one can live off unrealised "capital gains". I believe property speculators do in town. There has been endless programmes on television of urban dwellers buying the worst house in the street, do it up and flog it off, (at a profit?). Taxfree? Every houseowner is constantly seeking at accumulating growth in the value of his home. When a farmer improves his farm, he is also increasing output, further enhancing potential export receipts. Benefiting the economy. You ignore the effects of inflation. If land prices were to remain static in the face of inflation, what sort of bizarre economy would we have? Kind of weird I'd say.
I could go on for hours. Your column Cactus further confirms the one-eyed & derogatory contempt that urban NZ now has for the minority who provide the foundation for the standard of living.
It will be interesting to see the economic consequences of ETS as farm land is progressively retired and replaced with forest.I could go on but I don't think that you'd understand.
Nigel must have whining relations, I'd be sick of them too.
If China is anything like Japan, then Fonterra's value-add efforts are a waste of time considering that the buyer is largely interested in milk powder to produce products nationally. All the Japanese care about is the quality of the powder; the Chinese even less so.
Peter
So what is their tax take?
Export receipts? Go find other industries who pay more taxes and still export for NZ.
The largest speculators right now are land speculators. Your farming mates are leading the charge.
Another example of arbitrary government regulation distorting the economy.
Tax is theft. There is no away around that. The people try to find ways to work around it. At the moment it is possible for farms to be used to exploit some loopholes. The result is that resources are not allocated in the most productive manner. In the end govt caused distortions such as this lead to larger and larger inefficiencies and lost opportunities. NZ gets a lower standard of living.
Can the country really afford its government at all?
LGM
Cactus I simply do not beleive those figures .A very very good friend of mine made $1m last year for landcorp alone,only down 50% this year to drought,I know farming as well as you Land corp is fucking well run.
Kate - re. your enquiry to IRD, StatsNZ about tax take from farmers, it will be interesting to see if the information and your analysis corroborate the assessment and comments here:
http://www.johnwalley.co.nz/79-stop_farming_capital_gains_the.aspx
You say, "Of course high leveraging means plenty of income can be tax-deducted resulting in farmers paying far less tax than other taxpayers. Meaning more farmers buy more land and drive prices up as well as reducing income taxes, and increasing eventually their tax free capital gain."
Appropriate land, capital, capital gains taxation would help reduce these damaging dynamics, as would appropriate prudential lending and borrowing behaviour:
http://www.interest.co.nz/news/rbnz-delays-introducing-tougher-capital-rules-rural-lending-until-end-2010
However:
'You cannot implement a problem – only a solution'
http://www.infonews.co.nz/news.cfm?l=1&t=0&id=53064
"We have worked with the Reserve Bank to ensure that the speed of implementation has been slowed down on their new “prudential measures” and capital asset ratio requirements of banks. While there has definitely been a tightening on availability of capital, the implementation of these new policies will now be at a far slower pace than originally planned, thus reducing even more stress among the farming community. We argued that speed on implementation was not the solution New Zealand needed."
Maybe the taxpayer subsidised (nil CGT, single tool control of inflation, etc) ponzi scheme can keep keep chugging along, maybe not.
Am looking forward to reading your findings in a future article.
Cheers, Les Rudd.
www.mea.org.nz
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