Tuesday, July 14, 2009

It's Not Okay - To Be Blind Drunk and Expect Police To Be There

My little fan club of hysterical man-hating "feminists" have called me out before I have even written on this matter. So as predictable as I am to not want to let them down - I will write on the matter.

Police cannot be everywhere. They cannot protect women from every situation they find themselves in. It is therefore up to the gender to wear a bit of common sense from time to time.

Drinking is such a time. And I would hazard a guess I've been out drinking a bit more than the man-haters have and in more dangerous countries than New Zealand and am still incident free. Most of that is due to my aversion to taking risks such as gettting blindingly pissed around people I don't trust and my snobbery of paying a bit extra not to drink in bars that look like brothels or backpacker haunts.

Britton Brouan
here attempts a semi-investigative piece about women in Wellington getting too blindingly drunk to remember what happened and then falling victim of sexual assault. It's a good warning piece. Short of hiring a police escort or a bodyguard, a woman can never have her safety guaranteed in any part of the world. Getting blindingly pissed amongst strangers does NOT help your statistical odds of getting home safely.

It is what it is. It is not a nice thought to have, but some men are scum. They rape women. Deal with it. They can't rape all women, they haven't got time. So they pick the most vulnerable. A drunk woman I am afraid is ALWAYS the most vulnerable. I estimate I have saved at least a dozen women in my time from being assaulted by piling them into the nearest taxi or removing them from a group of predatorial men and looking after them. I have also instructed numerous male friends to leave a woman alone if I can see she's too plastered to give informed consent, therefore saving them from messy allegations or a situation where they could be accused of raping a woman.

Police say the number of attacks on drunk young women is growing. "They are binge-drinking, make poor choices and can't keep themselves safe," Detective Senior Sergeant Paul Borrell said. "That's a worry and that's the preventable part of it."

Borrell is right to give this advisory. He's not throwing the blame all on the woman.

A rape victim Sarah even backs his advice and is now valuably teaching other women not to make the same mistakes she did.

"Sticking with your mates is a really big thing, but at the same time you should be responsible for yourself.

"I don't totally blame myself, but if I hadn't been drinking that night it wouldn't have happened.

"I didn't really have a care in the world, I just never thought it would happen to me. You have a few drinks and think you're 10-foot-tall and bulletproof, but you're not."

But of course the man-hating "feminists" blame the Cop for making his sensible statement. He is admitting that the Police cannot be everywhere and that there is scum everywhere so they are outnumbered. The man-hating "feminists" then go on to say:

Is Detective Senior Sergeant Paul Borrell seriously intending to say that women are responsible when someone sexually assaults them? And that addressing rapists’ behaviour is not the way to prevent rape?

That's not what he is saying at all.

While no woman "deserves" to be raped. There are many ways to prevent being raped or decrease your statistical odds of being raped. Walking in a straight line and having your senses about you is one of those ways. Least of all that you can pick up more danger signals and then have the option to remove yourself from the situation when you feel unsafe.

Police have a public duty and it is part of their job to warn of the risks of behaviour. Leaving your car unlocked leads to increases in the likelihood of your car being broken into - safety campaign. Leaving your house unlocked or going away for long periods again, leads to an increase in the likelihood of your house being broken into - safety campaign. Your children could be abducted while walking to school - safety campaign.

Do Police have time to address the behaviour of all criminals? Nope. Can they? Nope. There will ALWAYS be an element of scum in the world and you have to protect yourself the best way you know how. Police and the Courts can only deal with the scum after they have offended. That's the way it works. They cannot put men in jail before crimes are committed. The sentences for rape should be increased dramatically for those scum found guilty, I agree. But again that's not the role of Police, but politicians.

Do the man-hating "feminists" lock their cars? Course they do. Do they lock their homes? Do they protect their children in a public setting? Course they do. Do they go out at night expecting everyone to be happy, good and honest? Come on. Helen Sullivan, Wellington Sexual Abuse Help Foundation general manager then again mis-understands as well what the Police's role is and that he didn't blame the victim:

“Why should the whole responsibility for a situation be put on women? The bottom line is we should be able to walk down the street or do anything without the threat of sexual violence.”

I don't blame the victims of rape for being raped, I blame women such as the man-hating "feminists" and well-meaning volunteer types such as Sullivan for blurting out nonsense that there should be nothing that a woman needs to do to prevent herself being raped and therefore it is all on the man to be a gentleman. Such complacency and faux-responsibility leads to women like Sarah believing at one stage they are "bulletproof".

If men were all gentlemen and women were all ladies we could leave our car doors open, our homes unlocked, our wallets on the table and children could be out all night without fear of any harm.

Utopia? Dream on.

19 Comments:

Blogger JCUKNZ's blog said...

Well said Cactus

10:20 AM, July 14, 2009  
Anonymous Sus said...

Correct.

1:36 PM, July 14, 2009  
Blogger Oswald Bastable said...

Yep, you don't rub yourself down with catfood before heading into bear country!

9:09 PM, July 14, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In my opinion sexual violence is disgusting, committing any sexual act without consent is abhorrent and appalling.

However this article infers things which are bullshit.

"Alcohol was involved in 19 sexual assaults on women aged under 21 in Wellington's CBD this year, while 14 of the victims - including school pupils - were too drunk to remember what happened" - if they were too drunk to remember what happened then how do we know it is assault? How do we know the woman didn't beg for sex and is now regretting it and so wants to call it assault?

"Though there were sexual predators who spiked drinks, in most cases the women had drunk themselves into a stupor and were taken advantage of by men of a similar age whom they "vaguely knew" or had met that night." - who cares if they had met that night...this is the nature of modern life, lots of people have one night stands etc. Taken advantage of does not imply illegality it implies a guy making the most of the fact a girl is drunk to try and have sex with her (by hitting on her). This happens in every club in every city 200 times a night. And let us not forget that a very drunk girl is often very horny and will take what she can get. The girls may be wasted, they may make poor choices but many of them are proactive in trying to get the man to 'take advantage' of her or to 'take advantage' of him herself.

Thoughts?

12:15 AM, July 15, 2009  
Anonymous Willie said...

This isn't a females-only issue.

The very same rules apply to men.

Don't get blindly drunk around people you don't trust.

The police can't be there when you get wasted, go to a dodgy bar, and some arsehole doesn't like your eyes/clothes/hair color/accent and beats you to within an inch of your life for it.

Apply management to the risk in your life. Raping, thieving, assaulting scum are everywhere.

Agree re increasing the penalties for some sexual offences.

1:37 AM, July 15, 2009  
Anonymous Man-hating feminist said...

I'm new to your blog so this might be a recurring theme but what's your pathological obsession with feminists?

You refer to them five or six times in your post. It's kind of scary.

Are you one of those insecure women terrified of being labelled a feminist lest the beloved men in your life don't think you're the life of the party?

I mean you could just say you agreed with what the police said but instead you've just hysterically ranted about how the MAN-HATING FEMINISTS! (aghhh run!) are like totally behind rape in NZ and OMG! they're so crazy. Crazy lefty man-hating angry feminists!

Oh but I bet you love the attention don't you? All your little boyfriends pat you on the back and you get to try and try and try to make the MAN-HATING FEMINISTS angry.

Does it upset you that I'm the only one that bit this time?

(And go you for attacking rape crisis instead of rapists aren't you clever? You're just so controversial!)

1:18 PM, July 15, 2009  
Blogger Roger Nome said...

"I've been out drinking a bit more than the man-haters have and in more dangerous countries than New Zealand and am still incident free. Most of that is due to my aversion to taking risks such as gettting blindingly pissed around people I don't trust and my snobbery of paying a bit extra not to drink in bars that look like brothels or backpacker haunts."
lol - seems like you're both delusional and lucky - i.e. high-powered wealthy types are more likely to have a sense of "entitlement" when it comes to women, plus they are the ones who can afford the date-rape drugs!
You have a lot to learn miss mescalin. I only hope you don't have to learn it the hard way.

3:03 PM, July 15, 2009  
Blogger Cactus Kate said...

RN

There you go again...so I am "lucky" and "delusional" that I haven't been raped? Do you expect ALL women to be raped at some point in their lives?

I'm simply stating that you can decrease your odds of getting into trouble and all of a sudden you now paint wealthy successful men as likely to rape women in "nicer" bars.

I think you are the one who has the "sense of entitlement"...that women who don't agree with you on safety matters all deserve to be raped...."I only hope you don't have to learn it the hard way"...ooohhh there's a condescending threat if ever I saw it.

That's what you are saying here and it is disgusting. But what we have come to expect from you and your kind.

1:27 AM, July 16, 2009  
Blogger Cactus Kate said...

Man-hating feminist

"You refer to them five or six times in your post. It's kind of scary". Ergh no, it's because I was posting about them. And was it five or six times? Can you count past your left hand?

I am a feminist you twit and happily admit it. Read the top of my blog headed "Feminism at its finest".

Until rape crisis and M-HF's such as yourself realise there is something you can do to decrease the odds of being raped or gaining unwanted male sexual attention, the sadder you will be.

Rapists are dealt with by the legal system. That's how they are blamed for their crime - with hopefully a nice fat jail cell and a cellmate called Bubba.

And if you actually engaged your brain to your right hand you can click on the link and see that a M-HF's blog and her friends started the conversation and made derogatory comments about myself first, before I had even seen the Dom-post article.

Now fuck off and go do something useful, like shaving your armpit. That would be a great start.

1:37 AM, July 16, 2009  
Blogger Faversham said...

Personal safety is a personal responsibility! I agree with Cactus relative to both gender's safety.

7:17 AM, July 16, 2009  
Blogger Sean said...

Well said CK. Spade a spade and all that.

8:56 AM, July 16, 2009  
Blogger Sean said...

CK - it may be force of habit but may I suggest you stop linking to your source/reference in the title of your post. It is not standard practice in blogoshpere - normally clicking on the post title brings up the post with associated comments. I know your method now but only because you mentioned it several posts ago. For newcomers and the forgetful, it will be an important part of your post missed. Might be worth reconsidering.

9:12 AM, July 16, 2009  
Blogger Cactus Kate said...

Sean

I blog in firefox/apple. If you can tell me how to link quicker than having to highlight, link, then either type the link in the www. box and then go into the text and copy paste again then I will do it.

Until then I will use the new blogger feature which is to simply whack a copy paste of the link below the heading and wallah it links.

1:21 AM, July 17, 2009  
Blogger Heine said...

Man Hating Feminist - good god. I can tell you don't get out much.

The only scary thing is your terribly naive opinions about rape. What a silly girl you are.

You have put back the average IQ of the feminist movement by double digits. Maybe single digits.

2:06 AM, July 17, 2009  
Blogger Roger Nome said...

"Do you expect ALL women to be raped at some point in their lives?"

No - I’m glad to say that most women don't live with your delusions.

"I'm simply stating that you can decrease your odds of getting into trouble"

It's a myth that wealthy men don't commit acts of violence against men - that's your delusion.

"that women who don't agree with you on safety matters all deserve to be raped."

Funny - that's what you seem to be saying in your post - i.e. "if you drink at bars that serve cheap drinks, you deserve to be raped" ...

"I only hope you don't have to learn it the hard way"

No one deserves to be raped - even people who adhere to an ideology which views children from lower-income households as "collateral damage" resulting from "economic efficiency". You may be inhumane, but it doesn't mean that every one else is.

3:28 PM, July 17, 2009  
Anonymous Farmer Baby Boomer said...

Cactus Kate, Well said. I might have to review my reservations about my daughters reading your blog!

3:05 AM, July 18, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're not a feminist. Not at all. Feminists don't blame rape victims for rape.

7:57 AM, July 18, 2009  
Blogger Cactus Kate said...

Oh dear God. And you are too stupid to be a feminist. Go re-read the article with your eyes open this time.

8:15 AM, July 18, 2009  
Anonymous Boganette said...

Lol actually she's a fauxmenist.

1:21 PM, July 18, 2009  

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